Episode #4 Confessional

[Matthew von Ertfelda]

Well, good old Butchy Butch got the boot, and I for one am not crying about it. It was once again a unanimous decision, and there is nothing much else to say about that. The tribe really felt that even in his bounce in and bounce out ways, Dan cares enough about the game to give an excuse for his behavior, and to claim he will improve, and practically going around to all of us and trying his heart out to get that second chance.

So there it is Dan. Use it well! Use it DAMN well dude, lol.

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Conversation With Roger:

wehabaseball [11:37 P.M.]: easy vote :-)
Deetman91 [11:37 P.M.]: haha yeah
Deetman91 [11:38 P.M.]: and i think it
Deetman91 [11:38 P.M.]: puts us in an okay position too
wehabaseball [11:38 P.M.]: of course
Deetman91 [11:38 P.M.]: it's nice we've been unanimous
Deetman91 [11:38 P.M.]: each time
wehabaseball [11:38 P.M.]: we have our best 4 competing in the next challenge, and if for some reason we do lose, just kick dan off
Deetman91 [11:39 P.M.]: yeah, im for that 100%
Deetman91 [11:39 P.M.]: and in case they decide to just never let us out of these tribes
Deetman91 [11:39 P.M.]: im with you all the way, 100%
Deetman91 [11:40 P.M.]: id want us to be the last of the Tambaquis
Deetman91 [11:40 P.M.]: but i like to think we wouldn't get whiped out like that lol
wehabaseball [11:40 P.M.]: no we wouldn't but i feel the same about us being the 2
Deetman91 [11:43 P.M.]: who do you trust more of dave and alex?
wehabaseball [11:43 P.M.]: definitely alex
Deetman91 [11:43 P.M.]: okay good, same
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: at best, if it did get to just us 3
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: i think he'd perform better than dan and dave
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: okay cool
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: well then i guess we have our pecking order down
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: but hopefully we start rocking it now
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: we've weeded out 3 people already
Deetman91 [11:44 P.M.]: its time for domination lol
wehabaseball [11:45 P.M.]: oh ya

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Well, I definitely wanted to solidify that with Roger, because I saw him talking around camp with Dave, and then who knows what his stance is with Alex. I really can't be positive that he isn't just telling me what I wanted to hear, but hopefully I just established the solid pecking order that will be kept if we don't merge.

Daniel in my opinion is the obvious next target, and Roger agreed to that, and Alex even wanted him to go before Butch at the tribal we just returned from. He should be next. Then I made sure Roger will be okay with Dave going should we have to go again, and considering that Alex has talked to me about the fact Roger wants to work with us both, and Dave in my opinion being more or less the next least valuable, I think that boot should go down without a hitch.

Then, beyond that, just in case things really get flubbed up, me and Roger essentially promised each other loyalty to the final 2 Tambaquis.

Then...if somehow things just honestly...go to the friggin crapper, I would be stronger than Roger I believe in...anything.

So hopefully with all of those factors taken into account, and me vibing correctly that even though I feel little twinges otherwise, I hope i can trust Roger. I really am basically putting a lot of longterm faith in him, but I think he feels he has loyalty with me, and feels the same desire for my loyalty to him. I simply will do what I can do not to betray that loyalty, directly, or accidentally, and give him no reason to doubt that I honestly am looking out for him in this game.

I have a feeling that things will get a hell of a lot more crazy and bumpy, and that these dynamics will more or less not play out, not because I don't trust Roger and others, but simply because it is unlikely we're not gonna merge very soon, or mix.

This game has been real linear and calm for us...it's time for things to shake up. And I feel the plates shifting beneath all our feet.

[Matthew von Ertfelda]

Well, Danny boy used it well! We still got our asses handed to us once again by the women of Thailand, and now the boys over there too, but it's no matter. This challenge had a lot of luck factors, and ultimately I got outfoxed by those ho's as per usual. I just have to make sure that doesn't happen with this game as an entirety.

Conversation with Daniel:

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ToFeR566 [8:17 P.M.]: hey
Deetman91 [8:17 P.M.]: Hey, how are you
ToFeR566 [8:18 P.M.]: good just got home and started challenge
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: cool
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: ive been getting destroyed lol
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: i haven't made any matches
ToFeR566 [8:19 P.M.]: u have 2 things left?
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: 1
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: Nail Clippers
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: whic got paired twice already...so idk
Deetman91 [8:19 P.M.]: where to go
Deetman91 [8:20 P.M.]: lol
Deetman91 [8:20 P.M.]: im thinking...
Deetman91 [8:20 P.M.]: maybe i should ask people if they have your things
Deetman91 [8:20 P.M.]: or you mine
ToFeR566 [8:20 P.M.]: im gonna have one after my next guess, shii ann has shampoo
ToFeR566 [8:21 P.M.]: just look back for ppl taking things and NOT pairing it up then u know they have it
Deetman91 [8:21 P.M.]: yeah i will
Deetman91 [8:21 P.M.]: i dont think i saw anymore nail clippers tho
Deetman91 [8:21 P.M.]: the girls are tricky
Deetman91 [8:21 P.M.]: in that they keep asking for each other
Deetman91 [8:22 P.M.]: so ive asked them for something they asked someone else for
Deetman91 [8:22 P.M.]: and then they didn't have it, and then someone else takes mine
Deetman91 [8:22 P.M.]: and John randomly guessed two of my things
ToFeR566 [8:23 P.M.]: damn
Deetman91 [8:23 P.M.]: yeah
ToFeR566 [8:24 P.M.]: when can u go again?
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: i can go right now
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: but ive been hesitant to ask for a nail clipper
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: and have someone else take mine
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: when they see i have it
ToFeR566 [8:24 P.M.]: dont ask for them
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: k
ToFeR566 [8:24 P.M.]: give me a second
Deetman91 [8:24 P.M.]: k
Deetman91 [8:26 P.M.]: see like...i could ask ghandia for he clippers
Deetman91 [8:26 P.M.]: but
Deetman91 [8:26 P.M.]: maybe she's asking for tanya or something
Deetman91 [8:26 P.M.]: lol
ToFeR566 [8:26 P.M.]: Heidi Strobel...Brian had tweezers. < ask heidi for tweezers

Deetman91 [8:26 P.M.]: u want me to?
ToFeR566 [8:27 P.M.]: yeah
ToFeR566 [8:27 P.M.]: ull steal them it wasnt a match and that way u have 2 items
Deetman91 [8:27 P.M.]: i didn't know it works like that
ToFeR566 [8:27 P.M.]: then ill look back for someone else that got tweezers
ToFeR566 [8:27 P.M.]: yeah
ToFeR566 [8:28 P.M.]: shit rob took my match
ToFeR566 [8:29 P.M.]: haha it wasnt a match though so i can take it from him
ToFeR566 [8:29 P.M.]: is dave online
ToFeR566 [8:30 P.M.]: we all need to work together to win this were way behind and need to be very smart abiout it
ToFeR566 [8:31 P.M.]: wow tanya just took it 2 mins before i can post
Deetman91 [8:32 P.M.]: yeah, we need to be
Deetman91 [8:32 P.M.]: Dave's AIM is come2meok
ToFeR566 [8:53 P.M.]: i thought u only had nail clippers?
Deetman91 [9:03 P.M.]: i think that is all i have
Deetman91 [9:03 P.M.]: is it not?
ToFeR566 [9:04 P.M.]: u got a match so u had to have had one already
Deetman91 [9:05 P.M.]: i got the tweezers
Deetman91 [9:05 P.M.]: that you asked me to ask for
Deetman91 [9:05 P.M.]: but i dont have tweezers of my own
Deetman91 [9:05 P.M.]: lol
ToFeR566 [9:05 P.M.]: well somehow u got a mtach lol
ToFeR566 [9:10 P.M.]: ask ghandia for comb
ToFeR566 [9:25 P.M.]: tanya has clippers
ToFeR566 [9:39 P.M.]: not anymore janet hasem now
Deetman91 [9:42 P.M.]: okay
Deetman91 [9:42 P.M.]: so i should ask her for them, yeah?
ToFeR566 [9:42 P.M.]: yeah
ToFeR566 [9:42 P.M.]: itll knock u out but we need points
Deetman91 [9:42 P.M.]: ok
ToFeR566 [9:47 P.M.]: he didnt say u were out.... i/m him and see what u have leftg
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: he did say i was out btw
ToFeR566 [10:10 P.M.]: yeah i saw
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: k just making sure you did
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: we still COULD win
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: so hopefully
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: everything falls into place just right
Deetman91 [10:10 P.M.]: with these last ones
ToFeR566 [10:11 P.M.]: i hope so im down to last itme and roger has 2
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: i think
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: you guys should exclusively ask heidi maybe
ToFeR566 [10:12 P.M.]: dave needs to be here!
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: she's the one that's online
ToFeR566 [10:12 P.M.]: yeah we were just sayin that
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: erin told me
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: idk how she got my aim
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: or why
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: but she did
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: lol
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: and it does make sense
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: also, ask bo
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: if you guys
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: can take daves items
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: once you get heidi out lol
ToFeR566 [10:12 P.M.]: he wont let us
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: oh
Deetman91 [10:12 P.M.]: damn
ToFeR566 [10:12 P.M.]: but ill try
Deetman91 [10:13 P.M.]: well then yeah
Deetman91 [10:13 P.M.]: he has to get on
Deetman91 [10:30 P.M.]: damn, i think they won
ToFeR566 [10:30 P.M.]: yeah with them 2 matches we cant catch up
Deetman91 [10:32 P.M.]: crap
ToFeR566 [10:33 P.M.]: well at least you proved that you're here to help 100% more than dave im really mad i wantd to win
Deetman91 [10:33 P.M.]: me too
ToFeR566 [10:33 P.M.]: or atleast get 2nd
ToFeR566 [10:33 P.M.]: wish i coulda got home right at 6
ToFeR566 [10:33 P.M.]: but yeah
Deetman91 [10:33 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:33 P.M.]: sook just got really lucky
ToFeR566 [10:33 P.M.]: so then i guess we vote dave?
Deetman91 [10:34 P.M.]: im good with that
Deetman91 [10:34 P.M.]: he was even here
Deetman91 [10:34 P.M.]: and didn't contribute hardly at all
ToFeR566 [10:36 P.M.]: yeah he got on and never responded to me
ToFeR566 [10:36 P.M.]: u talkign to roger?
Deetman91 [10:37 P.M.]: yeah a little
Deetman91 [10:37 P.M.]: you
ToFeR566 [10:38 P.M.]: yeah he seems cool wit voting dave
ToFeR566 [10:38 P.M.]: u think alex will be ok with it?
Deetman91 [10:38 P.M.]: yeah i think so
Deetman91 [10:38 P.M.]: i mean, he hasn't really been active
Deetman91 [10:38 P.M.]: and you've been stepping it up
Deetman91 [10:38 P.M.]: it's only fair
ToFeR566 [10:39 P.M.]: yeah i had a bad first few challenges
ToFeR566 [10:39 P.M.]: u talk to alex often?
Deetman91 [10:42 P.M.]: a little
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: i talk to roger more
ToFeR566 [10:43 P.M.]: yeah same
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: but i mean, idk why alex wouldn't be okay with dave going
ToFeR566 [10:43 P.M.]: but i guess it doesnt matter anyway.... if us 3 vote were good
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: plus, dave is just weaker
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: its better for the tribe
ToFeR566 [10:43 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: and i think we might be mixing or something real son
Deetman91 [10:43 P.M.]: soon*
ToFeR566 [10:44 P.M.]: i didnt mean vote alex.... i meant if he did or didnt vote with us
Deetman91 [10:44 P.M.]: and i trust you much more
Deetman91 [10:44 P.M.]: oh no, i know
Deetman91 [10:44 P.M.]: alex is really strong
Deetman91 [10:44 P.M.]: when he's around
ToFeR566 [10:44 P.M.]: yeah
ToFeR566 [10:45 P.M.]: i trust u and roger, i dont talk to alex much
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Conversation with Roger:
wehabaseball [9:22 P.M.]: ok get me updated on whats goin on
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: uhh
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: honestly
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: im lost myself
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: ive been
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: asking people for items
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: that i dont have
Deetman91 [9:23 P.M.]: right now
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: all i think i have are nail clippers
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: but apparently you can ask people for items you don't have an get them? according to dan
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: so he says i technically have those items now?
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: idk if that's accurate
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: anyway tho, i have nail clippes lol
wehabaseball [9:24 P.M.]: i hav shampoo and toothbrush
Deetman91 [9:24 P.M.]: ok
wehabaseball [9:26 P.M.]: i tihnk i took heidis toothbrush
wehabaseball [9:45 P.M.]: what should i go for next
wehabaseball [10:14 P.M.]: so ur out of items?>
Deetman91 [10:17 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:17 P.M.]: uhh
Deetman91 [10:17 P.M.]: idk
Deetman91 [10:17 P.M.]: but ask heidi i think
Deetman91 [10:17 P.M.]: for what you need
wehabaseball [10:18 P.M.]: ya i shouldve, hopefully she doesnt take something i have next
wehabaseball [10:27 P.M.]: now im out
Deetman91 [10:28 P.M.]: okay
Deetman91 [10:28 P.M.]: we need dave to get on
wehabaseball [10:28 P.M.]: ya know, now that daniel has been more active, i honestly might wanna keep him around this tribal..idk how u feel
Deetman91 [10:29 P.M.]: id consider voting dave
Deetman91 [10:29 P.M.]: over daniel
wehabaseball [10:29 P.M.]: ya same
wehabaseball [10:30 P.M.]: i think daniel would be more loyal, dave just seems like a floater
Deetman91 [10:30 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:30 P.M.]: okay
Deetman91 [10:30 P.M.]: im for that
wehabaseball [10:30 P.M.]: do we tell the other 2?
wehabaseball [10:44 P.M.]: ?
Deetman91 [10:49 P.M.]: uhh
Deetman91 [10:49 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [10:49 P.M.]: i mean
Deetman91 [10:49 P.M.]: dave i dont really talk to
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: if he asks, i probably won't lie about myself
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: alex i think we should tell
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: dan genuinely helped
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: dave didn't really
wehabaseball [10:50 P.M.]: alright its settled then
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: yeah i mean, it's essentially settled between me, you and dan
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: but alex i think should be for it
Deetman91 [10:50 P.M.]: cause it makes sense
wehabaseball [10:51 P.M.]: right
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So essentially me and Roger have decided that it is better to keep Dan, and personally, this is pretty much what I wanted to happen. Me and Dave have no connection, and from what I was realizing Dave and Roger were getting rather close to each other. I feel much safer having tangible proof that that relationship is certainly not going to be an issue.

Dave should leave with just the votes of me, Dan and Roger alone, but I do have a good relationship with Alex that I also don't want to spoil. I'm going to have to talk to him and see if he is okay with this, but there really is no reason he shouldn't be. Dave really doesn't seem like he's into this game too much, and I trust Dan's appreciation of me and Roger as being stronger than Dave's will, especially because me and Dave have only really talked to nod to each other regarding who the targets have been at previous tribals. Well this time I ain't gonna be nodding to him, cause it's time for Dave to go.

[Matthew von Ertfelda]

Conversations with Alex and Roger:

Deetman91 [11:24 P.M.]: Hey Alex
Deetman91 [11:24 P.M.]: how are you?
EHmatus88 [11:24 P.M.]: Hey Matt
EHmatus88 [11:24 P.M.]: I'm good. I just got home from work
Deetman91 [11:25 P.M.]: yeah, sorry you have to come home to this
EHmatus88 [11:25 P.M.]: it's ok, I know you guys tried your best
Deetman91 [11:25 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [11:25 P.M.]: Dan actually really helped a lot
Deetman91 [11:25 P.M.]: and Dave kinda disappeared on us
Deetman91 [11:26 P.M.]: me and Roger were talking above maybe giving Dan another chance
Deetman91 [11:26 P.M.]: would you be against that?
EHmatus88: Roger already gave me the heads up. I've spoken more with Dave so I've told him I'm still voting Daniel. I'm ok with you, Roger, and Daniel voting for Dave
Deetman91 [11:28 P.M.]: okay, i understand that
Deetman91 [11:28 P.M.]: I haven't talked to Dave hardly at all personally
Deetman91 [11:28 P.M.]: so yeah, between those two, it's pretty much between that, and this challenge for me
EHmatus88 [11:29 P.M.]: as long as us 3 are still tight, I'm ok with the decision
Deetman91 [11:30 P.M.]: yeah
EHmatus88 [11:31 P.M.]: well I have to head out tonight.
EHmatus88 [11:31 P.M.]: ttyl
Deetman91 [11:31 P.M.]: alright, well that's cool with me
Deetman91 [11:31 P.M.]: the vote stuff i mean
Deetman91 [11:31 P.M.]: as long as we're good on each other
EHmatus88 [11:31 P.M.]: yeah, we're still good
Deetman91 [11:32 P.M.]: alright, awesome, either way i am confident in us 3
Deetman91 [11:32 P.M.]: so its really just is it gonna be him or him
Deetman91 [11:32 P.M.]: alright then, have a good night!
EHmatus88 [11:32 P.M.]: nighty night

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Deetman91 [11:29 P.M.]: Hey so Alex wants to keep Dave, or at least is voting that way
Deetman91 [11:29 P.M.]: but he seems like he gets why we wouldn't, I think that he just felt closer to Dave than Dan
Deetman91 [11:30 P.M.]: but...he's just not putting much in for me, so I'm still for the Dave vote if you are.
Deetman91 [11:30 P.M.]: what do you think?
wehabaseball [11:30 P.M.]: ya still save
wehabaseball [11:30 P.M.]: *dave
Deetman91 [11:30 P.M.]: okay sounds good
wehabaseball [11:30 P.M.]: i put my vote in already anyway
Deetman91 [11:32 P.M.]: i will right now
wehabaseball [11:32 P.M.]: good
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As long as me and Roger are on board with the plan, we should just vote along with Dan and keep him around. It would put us in a great position where we know both Dan and Alex will be dependent on us as a pair to keep them, and though I personally ultimately would want to keep Alex over Dan, it's good to have Alex and the other person left not really be that close. This only confirms Dave going makes more sense for me, and if Alex is okay and understands why we think Dave is a better target, then that's even better for us.

I truly appreciate Alex's integrity in this situation, and I get it too. Daniel has kind of swooped in. He and Ryan were a toss up, but Ryan was just weaker, then Butch seemed to be a better target last time, and after we pretty much made it pretty clear it should be Daniel next, we do this to Alex. I feel kind of bad, especially because I know those guys are close, but that just makes that pair important for me and Roger to break up.

Truly, Dave isn't showing me that he wants to be here, and that is what matters above everything else. I want Tambaqui's I can trust, and ones that I talk to, and neither of those are check marks for the rocket scientist.

[Matthew von Ertfelda]

Conversations with Dave:

come2meok [4:34 P.M.]: Hey
Deetman91 [4:35 P.M.]: Hey, how are you?
come2meok [4:35 P.M.]: good, you?
come2meok [4:35 P.M.]: So the vote in Vs...
Deetman91 [4:35 P.M.]: im alright too
Deetman91 [4:36 P.M.]: for the vote, i told daniel that i wouldn't vote him tbh for this tribal
Deetman91 [4:36 P.M.]: when we were working on the challenge together
Deetman91 [4:36 P.M.]: cause i could tell he was trying extremely hard on it
come2meok [4:36 P.M.]: oK, I like Daniel so I would keep him
come2meok [4:37 P.M.]: And i think us 3 could team up
come2meok [4:37 P.M.]: If u want>
come2meok [4:37 P.M.]: Roger and Alex told me that after Butch it was him they wanted out
come2meok [4:38 P.M.]: ...
Deetman91 [4:39 P.M.]: Yeah, well I dont know for sure what they're doing
come2meok [4:40 P.M.]: Ok... Well who would u want to vote for?
come2meok [4:45 P.M.]: Get back to me about u me and daniel working together
come2meok [4:46 P.M.]: I gotta go for a bit ttyl
come2meok signed off at 4:46 P.M.
come2meok is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
Deetman91 [4:46 P.M.]: Alright, I'll see where Daniels head is at ttyl

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It truly is kinda upsetting when you have to like...more or less hint to someone that you are considering voting them. Maybe it is rediculous of me to give people the arsenal they need to want to get me out, especially if they have friends in this game, the way Alex does, but honestly, I feel like Survivor is a game of forming and developing your reputation. It's a game of creating an image of who you are, and living up to that image until you do not, and then can be completely discredited completely until the end of the game. If I can create an honest image, then I can likely avoid myself from falling into a category where I seem overly deceitful, and where no one feels that my word declaring loyalty or any plan can be 100%.

As for Dave, I really do hear people out...and I do give people a chance. I do consider everything, and nothing is set in stone until the torch is snuffed. I do have inclinations to just vote Dave off however, and I will see how Dan feels about this all before moving forward, because if he would consider flipping to his would be enemy who is in desparation, that is something I have to assess and make work. Hopefully he's more clever than that though.

Conversation with Daniel:
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ToFeR566 [4:39 P.M.]: hey
Deetman91 [4:39 P.M.]: Hey, watsup?
ToFeR566 [4:39 P.M.]: is dave talkin to you?
Deetman91 [4:40 P.M.]: yeah he just IMed me once I signed online
ToFeR566 [4:40 P.M.]: hes tryin to make an allaince of me u n him....
Deetman91 [4:40 P.M.]: yeah i know
Deetman91 [4:40 P.M.]: i told him when he imed me
Deetman91 [4:40 P.M.]: he had asked if the vote was for you
Deetman91 [4:40 P.M.]: and i told him that i talked with you
Deetman91 [4:41 P.M.]: and i won't be voting you
Deetman91 [4:41 P.M.]: so then he started saying that he likes you as well, and wants to work with the both of us
Deetman91 [4:41 P.M.]: i think that he realized that i wasn't voting you, and is now trying for that
Deetman91 [4:41 P.M.]: but honestly i wouldn't feel right voting either Roger or Alex
Deetman91 [4:42 P.M.]: Alex has been one of our stronger members, and I feel like Roger is looking out for me and you
Deetman91 [4:42 P.M.]: what are you thinking though?
ToFeR566 [4:43 P.M.]: yeah i feel the same way, i wouldnt vote roger but alex honestly worries me a lil
ToFeR566 [4:44 P.M.]: plus i think he knows its commin and is just tryin anything at this point
Deetman91 [4:44 P.M.]: yeah
Deetman91 [4:44 P.M.]: i think if dave would turn on alex
Deetman91 [4:44 P.M.]: i would trust him less anyway
Deetman91 [4:45 P.M.]: because i feel like he has acted like that's someone he trusts before
Deetman91 [4:45 P.M.]: and now cause he's against the wall and can't target you, i wouldn't want to target alex with him
ToFeR566 [4:51 P.M.]: honestly though say we dont merge n we lose yet again, am i going like r u roger n alex an allaince?
ToFeR566 [4:51 P.M.]: if u are im fine wit that n im not gonna flip or nuttin id just kinda like to know in advance
Deetman91 [4:52 P.M.]: Yeah, well I'm haven't solidly hammered anything out with those 3
Deetman91 [4:52 P.M.]: well us 3
Deetman91 [4:52 P.M.]: but i have talked to them for a while
Deetman91 [4:52 P.M.]: but part of what i feel is that Alex is definitely extremely strong
Deetman91 [4:53 P.M.]: but likely we're going to mix or merge soon anyway
Deetman91 [4:53 P.M.]: so at that point trust would matter, and I definitely do feel like I trust you
ToFeR566 [4:53 P.M.]: yeah, im really hopin that we merge n us 4 can stick together
Deetman91 [4:53 P.M.]: I mean, it really would be nice either way to have 4 Tams if we can later in the game, exactly
Deetman91 [4:53 P.M.]: if we do gotta go, i don't even know if id feel safe, or who would or wouldn't be safe
Deetman91 [4:53 P.M.]: hopefully we don't gotta deal with that
Deetman91 [4:54 P.M.]: For now though I do trust 100% that me, you, and roger should be voting dave
Deetman91 [4:54 P.M.]: cause he promised that to me
Deetman91 [4:54 P.M.]: and to you i think
ToFeR566 [4:54 P.M.]: yeah i hope not
Deetman91 [4:54 P.M.]: and we agreed on it
Deetman91 [4:54 P.M.]: so we should be good for this vote
Deetman91 [4:55 P.M.]: and then if we wanna make a closer deal if we have to we can, but i just want to friggin WIN
Deetman91 [4:55 P.M.]: and i really think with you upping it, and the rest of us, we can til merge
ToFeR566 [4:56 P.M.]: yeah in my past games i was never weak it was just my schedule sucked right at the begining of the game
ToFeR566 [4:56 P.M.]: and yeah daves gotta go this time
ToFeR566 [4:57 P.M.]: im at work now though n its gettin busy so ill ttyl
ToFeR566 [4:57 P.M.]: and my votes in already so dave should be gone
Deetman91 [4:58 P.M.]: yeah man, you totally seem strong now that you're able to have a better schedule, and you seem real cool
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So based on all of that, I think I can say with a certain degree of certainty that things should be okay. It appears that Dave is trying whatever he can, but it looks like he is trying to utilize me, to the point he would need Roger or Dan to take me out, and I like to think I can trust those two for what I've done for them in this game to not take me out. Dave is weak, and Dave is clearly from this willing to do what it takes to survive, whether it mean betraying Alex, manipulating, or voting with his former targets like they are his new best friends. He's playing the game now, and that makes he even more dangerous than before.